Hey Don,

Actually, I fish these flies both with
an indicator as well as without. Normally
with a friend along, I'll fish a topwater
fly and fish a nymph or scud on a dropper.
However, when alone, I normally fish these
flies without an indicator and rather
slowly. Slow enough that a partner might
lose patience.*G* The only exception being
when grass or structure makes it much
easier to use an indicator to keep the fly
out of it. Warm regards, Jim