I've been following this thread with interest. I can't agree more concerning the legs. I add legs to spider and hopper patterns ,but leave them off of the popper patterns. Hook gap on poppers is real important.I think the term I'm looking for is "hookability" I've had some poppers that looked really great only to be bounced around the surface with few hook ups. I have to admit that some of the patterns I tie are more for catching fisherman than catching fish.