Al and Allan are correct. The Hebert/Miner stock came from Darbee to Miner to Hebert and now to Tom Whiting who named them Hebert/Miner in keeping with their origination. They are different birds than the Whiting stock that he got from Hoffman. Nice feathers on both. I think the Whiting stock is a better feather...and the price difference between the two reflects that.

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John G.
Albuquerque, NM