You know I can understand tring to cut up a hide if you have it and do not want to buy one. But if you are just going to buy one and try to cut it yourself I would suggest just you buy a half a hide already cut. It is a lot less trouble and should cost you about 6 bucks is all. I gave up cutting my own and I tie for a living. Just to big a pain in the butt. Ron

PS: Wapsi has them and your local shop can order them for you from them.