@FishnDave As long as you keep tension on the line, fish aren't coming off...unless you're like me trying to horse them in. I've slowly been switching from TMC 2457 which are expensive, to Mustad C068 which are way cheaper, and just as strong. I thought I wasn't going to like the offset hook of the Mustad, but I've gotten used to them. Now I'm trying out Firehole's. 36 per pack sounds good to me, plus they're all barbless.