I was privileged to meet Warren, Jack and a couple of other guys from the area several years ago. Got to fish for a little while with them. Warren was a perfect guide on the upper Elk River, he knew where every rock big enough to trip over was located. I ended up catch the first brook trout I have ever seen and a nice rainbow. Been wanting to get back up there. Jack was a great host for that visit. Provided me a good bunk and took me where we could get some good BBQ (I'm picky about BBQ.)