I have been saying for years that it is a garbage hook. Really poor hook ups are the norm for this hook. Dave Blackburn of Kooteni Anglers was the first to clue me in to this problem when he would not buy any Stimulators that I had tied on the R200 or similar hook from other manufacturers. I kept track for one whole season of guiding, to the hook up rate of R200 type hooks vs. Daiichi 1280 which is what I have used since then to tie my Stimulators in all sizes down to #16. The down eye version of the R200 does better at hooks ups but not enough better to bother with. TMC 2302 is a nice 2X long down eye hook which also works nice for Stimmies and hoppers. The TMC 2312 is the same hook but with a straight eye; it is better than the R200 because of the wider gape but not enough to warrant its use in my opinion.