I will stick with my time proven method, the same method that Betty uses. We had this discussion some time ago about braided loop type fly line tips and some people really liked them but many years ago I had two of them come off in my hand so I never used them again. The perfection loop tied on a 6 inch or less section of the thick butt of an old leader then the other end nail knotted onto the line works great and lasts a very long time. However, many of the newer lines are coming with the loop already in them and those are good for a year or two before I cut them off and use the leader method.

Larry ---sagefisher---