Actually, I have some of that big ole bathroom stopper size chain that takes a hook down really good. Like Buddy said point up is a good idea near the bottom of the stream. I will probably be using a sink tip this year more than ever. After I started restocking by arsenal from last years sacrifice to Neptune or who ever inhabits freshwater depths, I came up with a 9 ft. stick that slings my 6 wt. sink tip the best of anything I have tried yet.