I will have to think about this more, but right now, I agree with Larry (sagefisher). This could be discussed from now to eternity and I do not feel the outcome would be any different than it was in the beginning. It boils down to the person using the fly/lure on what they call it. There are some "flies" that (my opinion only) I feel could be called "lures". A Pistol Pete is one of them. I am not sure there is an answer to this question, but, in "flies only" water, you better do your homework and make sure you understand what that particular "flies only" rules are or you could be fined.

Overall, I think it is a question that can never be answered to everyone's acceptance, but, just opens up a large discussion that could get "nasty" and I am glad this discussion is on FAOL because when or if it starts to get "nasty", our administrators will put a stop to it.

Now I will sit back and watch the action.....