Thanks guys, I'll have to check out the midcurrent videos. The hackle is actually the larger/largest feathers from my dry fly capes (grizzly, and brown). The hen cape I had didn't have long enough feathers to run the length of the hook. It seems to work well. It's funny that ducksterman mentions catfish since I am sure he is being fasicious, but the cream colored one caught 3 or 4 catfish for me one day when I was trying out a new stream that I thought had trout in it .