... to a previous thread on an alternative way to do a shorb loop.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/s...ers-Shorb-Loop

Regarding your second question, incorporating tip rings can be a very simple process. Maybe not so easy to describe.

On my rig, I do not use a "post" as such at the tip end. I have a fish hook attached to a movable end post that rides on a carriage. I take my turns around the fish hook, not the end post.

When the layout is complete, I slide a piece of ultra wire through the collected loops on one of the butt ends and fold the wire in half. Then slide the tip ring over the ends and down the two strands of the folded wire.

Next, take the butt end loops off the hook, or post, or whatever they are wrapped around.

Pull the wire, which is now holding the butt ends of the leader material, tight and slide the tip ring off the wire onto the strands of leader material.

Replace the butt end loops of leader material onto the hook, or post, or whatever they were wrapped around.

Slide the tip ring down to the tip end of the leader material.

Remove the leader material from the hook that is holding the tip end of the leader material.

Place the tip ring onto the hook that was holding the tip end of the leader material.

Here's another link that might help. Notice the end post with hook on the movable carriage in the third photo.

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/s...ne-Leader-Jigs

John