Didn't have intentions of High Jacking the thread, just couldn't resit Mikes post...
To add to the post, I have Orvis brand waders that have served me well, I grew up a river rat so to speak (James River) I learned the counrty boy way startting around 9 with a little direction from uncles,( be careful don't drown) so I think I'm kinda hard on waders, scrambleing over and sliding down boulders and such, where as I may not fish as many days as another, I think I may be alot harder on waders than most. So far in about 6 years of use I have deveopled a very small pin hole in the right foot that only leaks enough to wet my big toe, and I think thats my fault, I don't use gravel gaurds...