Jeff,

I've been following a thread by Roy Christie on another forum where he's been tying all of his spiders in the somewhat the manner of Baillie. He doeesn't wrap the hackle around the silk, but palmers the hackle down the body then works the silk through the hackle back to the eye. Very durable flies (except when your hookin tree fish) that fish very well. lots of action in the water.

I'll be tying a few and posting some examples later today.

REE