thanks for the advice.
i already tied some of the foxy reds. they are really easy

we will be in kayaks and paddling from beach to beach.

and dmdmd, what is a spoon fly?

im not actually using a fly fishing outfit because 1) i dont have one and 2) im not willing to buy one......yet...... not sure how im gonna rig them yet. i just wanted to use flies because ive tried natural bait b4 and they just rip it off the hook (stupid crabs).

any more advice is welcome

thanks

Jordan