I would just like to throw in here that I just purchased a bunch of the new Signature hooks in the 50's boxes, for a class I was giving. I've been tying on them for the past couple of weeks now. I'm now a fan of the Signature Series hooks. I'll be testing the heck out them over the next season, but so far... A + . My local shop only has the small packs. I'll be pushing him to bring in the bigger ones now.