Thanks for the replies! It seems like this thread isn't getting much response but you guys are giving me the info and the ideas I need to use these things effectively. It looks like I need to buy a good book with saltwater patterns in it but my intention is to target deeper pike, muskies, walleye & bass with them so some pattern adaptation may be needed. Unfortunately I don't get to saltwater fish very often but it looks like when I get there I'll be all set for some big time fun!