angler i miss the picnic, but i was feeling poorly hate to miss bigdadyrod's cooking,but i am not a big eater anyway.i have a L L bean pocket knife i wanded to show to you, about fifty years old. that is a nice rattler, use to kill them but i mellowed in my old age. on the laxawaxen years ago i had a yellow phase one by the tail, about five foot long my buddy don't like them, i ask for a stick to pin his head and he gave me one four inches long. had to let go as he was getting mad. we thought it was a truck tire cap till we saw what it was. fish glad to here that we thinking of fishing in Ohio for steelhead this fall bam lots rattler in stony and clarks creek valley. don't like copperheads, last ten or so years ihave been moveing rattler off the roads, so they don't get run over. can be lots of fun sometimes. still don't have a big rattler skin on the wall. flyman 3