RickB, I fish around Brookville. My family is from the Latrobe area and I have fished around there extensively.

Thanks everyone for your responses. I will give these flies a try. As for the pellet flies, I have tied a fly from spun deer hair and trimmed it to look like a pellet. When cast after throwing a handful of pea gravel in the water it can be deadly. I kind of think of it like shooting fish in a barrel though.

Ben