and I think that is the important thing,,but you do have me thinking about grabbing a spool and giving it a shot...I might have to try an experiment, my buddy and I are fishing weds after work,, so maybe I'll put some on without telling him,, see if I can finally nail a few more than he does...of course it shouldn't be in doubt with my new Camo leader that is very sweet!!! By the way your flies will be on there way Tuesday......