I just wanted to comment on the Nor-Vise. I have been tying flies for almost 51, yes, 51 years. I purchased a Nor-Vise a couple of weeks ago and I am extremely happy with it. I have tied trout streamers and also flies down to size 26 with no problem. I have had Renzetti in the past including the pro model, but the Nor-Vise is now my number one fly tying vise.