Sorry to hijack this thread, but...

Paul,

Just read your reply and in my head I can see your reverse spider as you described it, but, I would appreciate it if you could send me a picture of it either by PM, E-Mail or post it here. I think it is a pattern that I would love to tie up and try here on my fish. I really enjoy using the reverse spider and it has and will produce many fish. Not many people here, that I have given that fly to, will use it and they make up their minds that it will not work just by looking at it. Too bad, but, it is their lost and my gain!

Once again, sorry for the hijack...