I will tie up some with everyone's suggestions. Peter Frailey's Gurgle-Pop, with the rubber legs also looks like a good Gurgler variation. I plan on tying up a few smaller HairyMara Sliders as well. What other top water panfish flies have been good for you guys? I spoke to my buddy last night, and he said that he and his dad went gear fishing last weekend and the fish were not in a surface mood. I have plenty of subsurface stuff already though.