Ron

I gave the 'roll' a try and it seemed to work out pretty good. The roll was more of a fold and about half the barbs went to the other side. I held that and tied to the hook using a 'pinch'. Most of the barbs stayed and there is orange on both sides.

Guess I am not going to get any better than that. Will keep trying.

If I cut out two sections from two feathers and leave the stem in both I can get nice color on both sides, but they don't look right with the stems.

Thanks again

Bob