Jonezee, I find it odd that people from all over talk about moving to California and Californians are moving out of California. Not to generalize, ofcourse, there is some awsome fishing, some good people and pretty nice wines, other than that...well, you make up your own mind. At least they are trying to send beer to Oregon. I'll tell ya what...I'll take the beer Oregon got from them, if you take the gangs and crime rate we got.