thanks guys. i just tied a muddler. other than my wing splitting apart cuz it sucked, it turned out good. the head doesnt look TOO great...only because i used one clump instead of the normal 3. i didnt want to waste as my kit only came w/ like a 1"x1" patch of deer hair, and most is gone. then next one will be good, as i am using synthetic wings and tails, and im going to use 3 clumps.