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    Default How to sentence an "(a)merican terrorist.

    Awesome...

    Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb
    built into his shoe and
    tried to light it?

    Did you know his trial is over?
    Did you know he was sentenced?
    Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments
    on TV/Radio?
    Didn't think so.


    Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.
    Ruling by Judge William Young, US District
    Court.

    Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the
    defendant if he had
    anything to say.

    His response: After admitting his guilt to
    the court for the
    record,
    Reid also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin
    Laden, to Islam, and to
    the religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I
    will not apologize
    for my actions," and told the court "I am at war
    with your country."

    Judge Young then delivered the statement
    quoted below:
    January 30, 2003, United States vs. Reid.
    Judge Young:

    "Mr. Richard C. Reid, hearken now to the
    sentence the Court
    imposes upon you.

    On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life
    in prison in the
    custody of the United States Attorney General. On
    counts 2, 3, 4 and 7,
    the Court sentences you to 20 years in prison on
    each count, the
    sentence on each count to run consecutive with the
    other.
    That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court
    sentences you to the
    mandatory 30 years consecutive to the 80 years just
    imposed. The Court
    imposes upon you each of the eight counts a fine of
    $250,000 for the
    aggregate fine of $2 million. The Court accepts the
    government's
    recommendation with respect to restitution and
    orders restitution in the
    amount of $298.17 to Andre Bousquet and $5,784 to
    American Airlines.
    The Court imposes upon you the $800 special
    assessment.


    The Court imposes upon you five years
    supervised release simply
    because the law requires it. But the life sentences
    are real life
    sentences so I need go no further. This is the
    sentence that is
    provided for by our statutes. It is a fair and just
    sentence. It is a
    righteous sentence.

    Let me explain this to you. We are not
    afraid of you or any of
    your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are
    Americans. We have
    been through the fire before. There is all too much
    war talk here and I
    say that to everyone with the utmost respect. Here
    in this court, we
    deal with individuals as individuals and care for
    individuals as
    individuals. As human beings, we reach out for
    justice.

    You are not an enemy combatant. You are a
    terrorist. You are
    not a soldier in any war. You are a terrorist. To
    give you that
    reference, to call you a soldier, gives you far too
    much stature.
    Whether it is the officers of government who do it
    or your attorney who
    does it, or if you think you are a soldier. You are
    not----- you are a
    terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists.
    We do not meet
    with terrorists. We do not sign documents with
    terrorists. We hunt
    them down one by one and bring them to justice.

    So war talk is way out of line in this
    court. You are a big
    fellow. But you are not that big. You're no
    warrior. I've know
    warriors. You are a terrorist. A species of
    criminal that is guilty of
    multiple attempted murders. In a very real sense,
    State Trooper
    Santiago had it right when you first were taken off
    that plane and into
    custody and you wondered where the press and where
    the TV crews were,
    and he said: "You're no big deal."

    You are no big deal.

    What your able counsel and what the equally
    able United States
    attorneys have grappled with and what I have as
    honestly as I know how
    tried to grapple with, is why you did something so
    horrific. What was
    it that led you here to this courtroom today?

    I have listened respectfully to what you
    have to say. And I ask
    you to search your heart and ask yourself what sort
    of unfathomable hate
    led you to do what you are guilty and admit you are
    guilty of doing.
    And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy
    you, but as I search
    this entire record, it comes as close to
    understanding as I know.


    It seems to me you hate the one thing that
    to us is most
    precious. You hate our freedom. Our individual
    freedom. Our individual
    freedom to live as we choose, to come and go as we
    choose, to believe or
    not believe as we individually choose. Here, in
    this society, the very
    wind carries freedom. It carries it everywhere from
    sea to shining sea.
    It is because we prize individual freedom so much
    that you are here in
    this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone can see,
    truly see, that
    justice is administered fairly, individually, and
    discretely. It is for
    freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so
    vigorously on your
    behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their
    representation of you
    before other judges.

    We Americans are all about freedom.
    Because we all know that
    the way we treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of
    our own liberties.
    Make no mistake though. It is yet true that we will
    bare any burden;
    pay any price, to preserve our freedoms. Look
    around this courtroom.
    Mark it well. The world is not going to long
    remember what you or I say
    here. Day after tomorrow, it will be forgotten, but
    this, however, will
    long endure. Here in this courtroom and courtrooms
    all across America,
    the American people will gather to see that justice,
    individual justice,
    justice, not war, individual justice is in fact
    being done. The very
    President of the United States through his officers
    come into courtrooms
    and lay out evidence on which specific matters can
    be judged and juries
    of citizens will gather to sit and judge that
    evidence democratically,
    to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.

    See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of
    the United States
    of America. That flag will fly there long after
    this is all forgotten.
    That flag stands for freedom. And it always s will.

    Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

    We need MORE judges like Judge William Young perhaps on the US Supreme Court.

    Mark

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    Mark

    Thanks for taking the time to post this. I'm proud of this judge's ability to look at the individual and crime and leave war and politics out of his decision.

    Even if it is deemed necessary to lock this down, I hope it stays so all who wish can read it.

    Dave
    " If a man is truly blessed, he returns home from fishing to the best catch of his life." Christopher Armour

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    Read this a while back BUT it needs to be circulated so everyone gets to read it!!

    What is the MEDIA afraid of, why won't they publish this for every Americac to see?

    Thanks Marco, for this.

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    Thank you Marco for sharing that with all.

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    Mark,,thanks for your post.

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    Thanks Marco...THAT'S my kind of Judge!!
    Mike
    FAOL..All about caring, sharing, & good friends!!

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    Macro

    I copied this and sent it to all my friends that are not on FAOL.

    Thanks for sharing.

    Harold

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    Good post! It's interesting to note that todays NY Post had an article about the sentencing in Holland of the terrorist who murdered the Dutch Film Director Van Gogh. That terrorist made essentially the same statement as Reid and also refused to apologize for his act.

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    Thanks for posting this

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    Take care everyone and cya around. Mark
    Take care and cya around,

    Mark

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    What is the MEDIA afraid of, why won't they publish this for every Americac to see?
    It was reported extensively at the time, it's just been a couple of years since it happened.

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