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    Silver Creek, I don"t recall giving you permission to use my likeness. I'll be talking to my attorney as soon as the sun sets so he can come out of his coffin.
    I can think of few acts more selfish than refusing a vaccination.

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    I read that the odor from mothballs is toxic and not to be breathed. You better check on that. I could be wrong, but I've always thought it to be true.

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    Don't get so excited about toxicity. You're not going to breath the fumes for any significant time.
    A little sniff once in a while when you open up a container is meaningless. Don't get hyper.

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    Having prepared and sold many, many hundreds of bird skins for tying there are a few points in this thread that leave me shaking my head... again.

    A simple wash in hot soapy water with a bit of Clorox will kill all bugs and their descendants.

    I used to use a large "tumbler" which was just a large rotating drum filled about halfway with 50:50 dry sawdust and borax. The damp skins are placed in the barrel and it rotates slowly for an hour or so. At that point the feathers are dry, clean, fluffy, polished, and 100% safe. The Clorox is the reason it is safe. Borax does almost nothing to prevent bad bugs.

    Washed skins allowed to just dry do not produce good feathers. It takes the effort of at least blow drying the feathers to get them looking and tying their best. Dried matted skins can be washed and dried and fluffed just like fresh skins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Kunz View Post
    Don't get so excited about toxicity. You're not going to breath the fumes for any significant time.
    A little sniff once in a while when you open up a container is meaningless. Don't get hyper.
    The problem is is that I live in a one-floor apartment and the smell permeates everything I own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lastchance View Post
    The problem is is that I live in a one-floor apartment and the smell permeates everything I own.
    Enoz brand now makes lavender scented para moth disc's that are encased in a paper pouch. They can be found at Walmart stores in a lavender colored box. They don't smell that bad at all compared to the conventional ones.

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    I have used many grouse skins, starlings, deer hide, buck tails, squirrel tails coyote tails....never washed any of them, never froze any of them. Just dried them with salt and borax and brushed the furs and fluffed the feathers. Can't say that I have ever found a bug. My understanding is that once a host is dead and there is no more blood fleas leave.

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    A 5-gallon bucket with Dawn and about a cap-full of bleach will kill everything. DO NOT let anything soak in anything that contains bleach....and rinse well. Hand-wash kills the critters. However, ALL fat and flesh MUST be removed. Remaining fat and flesh will ruin a hide/skin before bugs even bother it. Hap is spot-on....tumbling or blow drying is needed to properly care for afterwards. I ran a trap-line for 12 years and took many, many pelt to auction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tig View Post
    I have used many grouse skins, starlings, deer hide, buck tails, squirrel tails coyote tails....never washed any of them, never froze any of them. Just dried them with salt and borax and brushed the furs and fluffed the feathers. Can't say that I have ever found a bug. My understanding is that once a host is dead and there is no more blood fleas leave.
    Tig
    You should NEVER use salt on tying materials... It takes surprisingly little salt residue to cause hooks to rust in a closed fly box. And it does not kill anything.
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    Ralph,would not the use of clorox or other bleaches alter the color of furs and/or feathers even slightly? And also I would think the harshness of the bleach would have a drying effect on the feathers and furs causing them to become brittle? I agree with the hair dryer use though. Just wondering!
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