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    Default Tying the Griffiths Max

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    The Griffiths Max (GM)

    The Griffiths Max or (GM) is a solid pattern in my box. An enlarged Griffiths Gnat by heritage, it's tied in one 3-material dubbing loop. Making it extremely easy to tie, and very effective. A great search pattern whenever the fish are looking for terrestrials.



    Recipe


    Hook: Standard Dry#14
    Thread: Olive 8/0 Uni-thread
    Abdomen: Peacock Herl
    Hackle: Brown Dry

    http://ralphsflybox.blogspot.com/2014/08/tying-griffiths-max-video.html



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    This fly reminds me of the old Brown Hackle fly, only difference that one didn't have the peacock hurl. Great little fly.

    Larry ---sagefisher---

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    Ralph,

    Nice fly; thanks for posting.

    Regards,
    Scott

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    It's times like this I wish I still had my books. That's a much older pattern than you might think. It is featured in North Country Flies by T. E. Pritt (Plate 4) No. 17 The Red Palmer. As that dates it back to pre 1886 it is probably the original name. The "red hackle" in the dressing refers to red game hackle, which is what you would call brown. It just goes to prove what was mentioned in Byron's thread the other day about different people "inventing" the same fly.

    Cheers,
    A.

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    Alan,

    To take it even one step more, the Red Palmer would predate the Griffiths Gnat. Where the Griffiths Max differs form both, is that the hackle is not palmered. Its spun and wound together with the herl as a dubbing brush. Different techniques in applying the same materials. In all honesty, my reason for doing it in that manner had more to do with seeking durability, vs outcome. Although in the end the outcome was more than expected. After checking out the book, I gotta say, I like their thinkin'.
    Last edited by NJTroutbum; 08-16-2014 at 04:44 AM.

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    NJ,
    You don't actually use a loop, do you? Could just leave a long tag end of the thread?
    Ever put a grizz and brown together to get an "Adams" color?

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    Byron,

    No, not on this particular pattern. I form the loop initially just because its the easiest method to create a tag. Form a short loop and cut one standing end. I have tied the pattern with a number of color variations. Never tied the Adams variation. I do tie it with yellow thread and Cree hackle though. One of the most effective is a Golden Badger hackle in #18 with rusty-dun thread.

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    "They fasten red (crimson red) wool around a hook, and fix onto the wool two feathers which grow under a cock’s wattles, and which in colour are like wax. " -Claudius Aelianus (c. 175 – c. 235 CE), AKA - Aelian...first record of FlyFishing
    ‎"Trust, but verify" - Russian Proverb, as used by Ronald Reagan

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    Byron,

    Here is a comparison of the GM versions I tie 99% of the time. The one on the left is a Cree hackle with yellow uni-thread.

    GMs.jpg

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    And here's what your thoughts on the Adams variety came out like. First try with 2 hackles.

    AGM.jpg

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