Pheasant Tail

[moonlitflies]

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Does use materials other than pheasant tail for this nymph?

Brandon

[gordo7]

Why ? Tradition and proven performance etc.

[moonlitflies]

Because sometimes its fun to play with new materials, and variations of patterns. For me I love trying to make my own twists on patterns. I've tied Renegade using different colors of Ostrich Herl, and been extremely ptoductive. With this I'm excited to see how it fish's using different material than the classic Pheasant Tail. Experimenting is the fun of it. Just curious what other mayerials might be used for this by other people.

Brandon

[ScottP]

Nothing wrong with trying something different (although if you sub out the pheasant then is it really a Pheasant Tail any more?).

Howard Cole's LOF Pheasant Tail




Hot Wire Tarcher Pheasant Tail




Flashback PT Softhackle (used ostrich for the hackle)




Here's some I tied with hen pheasant tail

basic




flashback




beadhead




beadhead full flashback




Soft Hackle (split thread)





Charlie Craven's Pheasant Tail Alternative is a cool looking fly and doesn't use any at all

http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/fly...fm?parentID=50

Regards,
Scott

[moonlitflies]

Scott that's true that it's technically no longer a Pheasant Tail, but it's still tief to imitate the same. In the picture above I've used a different type of thread. This picture is of a Copper metallic thread. I haven't tried them yet, but I'm excited to see how they do. Lots of PMD's on this water.
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Cheers
Brandon

[melk]

Nice collection of flies up there. Some neat new ideas.
Mike

[Allan]

There comes a point when a particular pattern is altered sufficiently that the name of the original can/should not be used to identify it. Example, you're fishing with a friend who is about 100+feet away and he's hammering them. All you can muster is a 6 inch dink. You yell out, "What are you using"? He yells back, "A 14 BWO". You search your vest and find the box with BWOs and put one on. In the next 1/2 hour you see him catch 4 more nice trout and you're still doing nothing. Eventually you guys come together and you look at the flies (2 got chewed to nothing) he was using. The pattern was a size 16. It had a pheasant tail tail and body, dun hen hackle tip wings, and mixed brown and grizzly hackle. You say, "That's not a BWO" and he says, "Yes it is. See, it has a BWO wing".

Allan

[moonlitflies]

Allen you're 100% correct. My reasoning for the post was to see what other people may be using instead of traditional material to tie some of the great patterns. I like to learn of different materials and sometimes wonder what others might be using. We could use same materials snd tie same fly differently anyways. The reference to the fly I'm looking to imitate lets people know what I'm wanting my fly to look like and imitate.

Cheers
Brandon

[AlanB]

Another example of Allen's point. The Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear was originally a dry fly, that's how I was introduced to it. I still tie and fish them as dry flies. There are older wet flies that have a hare's ear fur body ribbed with gold, such as Hare's Lug 'n' Plover. The Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear pre dates artificial flies that are described as "nymphs", which is a relatively modern usage. The Gold Ribbed Hare's Ear Nymph is the fly most people will recognise. The laziness of dropping the "nymph" part of the name has almost cost us a very effective fly.

Brandon, your fly may turn out to be very, very good. If you call it a Pheasant tail, who will get the credit for first tying it? Please give it a name of it's own then we will all know it for what it is, and who created it.

Cheers,
A.

[Byron haugh]

Very interesting....Here I thought the "real" PT Nymph was tied without thread.....