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    Found this fly while poking around the flyboxes at Kingfisher's in Missoula (nice shop, love their rolling material racks). S'posed to be a good bet on Rock Creek; turns out it was.




    hook - Mustad 9671 #12
    thread - Uni 8/0 camel
    Tail - goose biots brown
    body - Super Floss red
    rib - peacock herl
    hackle - Indian hen back
    head - 1/8 brass bead




    Mash down barb and slide bead on shank









    start thread, wind to bend and create thread ball









    tie in biot tails (extend a little less than shank length) tight against thread ball to divide; trim tails and create thread underbody









    tie in Super Floss (original pattern called for regular floss but it tends to darken up too much for my liking when coated in cement; Uni-Stretch is better and easy to work with but I wanted to see how the spandex stuff would work)









    tie in peacock herl









    wrap Super Floss, try to create tapered body









    coat with Sally









    spiral peacock up body while cement is still wet (to tell the truth, counter wrapping with x-small copper wire would probably create a more durable fly; next time)









    prep a hen back feather; couple wraps of hackle (keeping it sparse), tie off, a bit more Sally and you're done







    top view (kinda)









    If it's going to be fished (and lost) amongst the rocks, I like to keep them simple. Originally tied by Darryl Smoot for the Yakima River.


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    Scott
    Last edited by ScottP; 11-07-2012 at 03:53 PM.

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    Interesting pattern Scott. Thanks for posting.

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    Looks pretty cool...I like it!
    Thanks for sharing the pattern, Scott!
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    Hi Scott,

    Nice fly. Just commenting to prompt some discussion. Was there a reason you tyed in the body material first and the rib second? I was taught the reverse order. Also, you mention about counter-wrapping with wire. If you do that, I would suggest this sequence:
    Tye in wire at tail followed by body material.
    Wrap body material to thorax.
    Tye in the peacock where body material ends and wrap it to the tail.
    Secure peacock with a wrap of wire and, in open wraps, wind the wire toward the thorax to where body material ends.
    This will secure the peacock and make the fly much more durable.

    Allan
    Last edited by Allan; 11-08-2012 at 11:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Hi Scott,

    Nice fly. Just commenting to prompt some discussion. Was there a reason you tyed in the body material first and the rib second? I was taught the reverse order. Also, you mention about counter-wrapping with wire. If you do that, I would suggest this sequence:
    Tye in wire at tail followed by body material.
    Wrap body material to thorax.
    Tye in the peacock where body material ends and wrap it to the tail.
    Secure peacock with a wrap of wire and, in open wraps, wind the wire toward the thorax to where body material ends.
    This will secure the peacock and make the fly much more durable.

    Allan
    Allan,

    For most ribbing, I would tie it in first; in this case, I didn't think it really mattered since it's all for show and not re-enforcement of the body (the reason I suggested counter wrapping with the x-small wire). Tying the peacock in at the head and spiraling to the back, then counter wrapping with the wire (same sequence as hackling an Elk Hair Caddis) would work fine.

    Regards,
    Scott

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    I think Allan was referring to the fact that most tiers tie material on the hook in the reverse order of being used. Thus, since the body material is wrapped forward before the peacock herl, the peacock herl would be tied on the hook before the body material is tied in.
    Allan, please correct me if I got this wrong.
    Byron
    Last edited by Byron haugh; 11-11-2012 at 12:57 PM.

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    This pattern looks deadly. I'm going to have to tie a few of these up. Nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron haugh View Post
    I think Allan was referring to the fact that most tiers tie material on the hook in the reverse order of being used. Thus, since the body material is wrapped forward before the peacock herl, the peacock herl would be tied on the hook before the body material is tied in.
    Allan, please correct me if I got this wrong.
    Byron
    Byron,

    BNope. The way you describe it was what I was talking about. Your explanation was a little clearer than mine. With this pattern, just 2 materials, it probably doesn't matter at all.

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