popper vs hook size

[Normand]

i bought some of these, size 4



do i need to tie them on these



or these



does the hook size = the popper size

[FishnDave]

My experience is that the popper size isn't the same as the hook size. I bought (I think?) size 4 bass popper bodies, and they seem to match up perfectly with a Size 10 Umpqua "Special Use" hook, like the style in your bottom hook picture.

But...in my case, I can't figure out why this is considered a size 10 hook, because they are plenty big...way way way bigger than any standard size 10 hooks? I figured it had something to do with the "Special Use" designation?

[Bass_Bug]

Norm,
The size chart that Perfect Popper ships with the poppers w/ hooks combo's says for:

Pencil Popper:
#1 Body use Mustad 9674 #1
#4 Body use TMC #6

Saltwater popper:
#2 Body use TMC 511S #2
#2/0 Body use TMC 511S #2/0

Tapered Cupped bodies:
#1 Body use TMC 8089 #6 or Mustad 80300BR #6
#4 Body use TMC 8089 #10 or Mustad 80300BR #10
#8 Body Mustad 3366 #6

Bream poppers:
#10 Body use TMC 100/101 #10 or Mustad 3366 #10
#12 Body use TMC 100/101 #12 or Mustad 94840 #12

[bamboo10]

Normand:
The rule that I use is the length of the body, it should be just a little more over 50% of the shank of the hook, on the kink shank hooks that is usually just past the kink. I prefer the kink shanks because it helps keep the head from turning. I have used stinger hooks by tying a piece of 50# mono on the top of the hook and then putting super glue on it hold the mono in place.
GJ

[Normand]

Norm,
The size chart that Perfect Popper ships with the poppers w/ hooks combo's says for:

Pencil Popper:
#1 Body use Mustad 9674 #1
#4 Body use TMC #6

Saltwater popper:
#2 Body use TMC 511S #2
#2/0 Body use TMC 511S #2/0

Tapered Cupped bodies:
#1 Body use TMC 8089 #6 or Mustad 80300BR #6
#4 Body use TMC 8089 #10 or Mustad 80300BR #10
#8 Body Mustad 3366 #6

Bream poppers:
#10 Body use TMC 100/101 #10 or Mustad 3366 #10
#12 Body use TMC 100/101 #12 or Mustad 94840 #12

thats weird. heres the chart with that came with the poppers i bought (i opened the package after i read your post)

[Fred H]

Regardless of what chart you use you need to ensure that the popper body ends on the hook shank before it becomes a hindrence to your hook ups. A good rule of thumb is the body should not extend past the hook point.
Fred

[brhoff]

After looking carefully, you bought tapered or cupped bodies in #4, that would require the #2 hook.

They only sort of match up. That's how I see it, if I missed something, disregard.

Also, the TMC hook makes a "better" choice or a Gamakatsu Bass Stinger as they both have a more open gap and after a cuple of years of almost exclusive topwater Smallie fishing, my unscientific research shows they result in more positive hook ups.