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    Default Casting II ?

    Hi all,

    I'm not a casting instructor. I often have friends and clients who could improve their casting technique though.

    IMHO, ... one of the aspects that distinguishes a Real Instructor, is their ability to diagnose problems in a cast (or the caster).

    Question:

    What is the #2 problem you see that an intermediate caster does?, ... And, ... how can you help to fix it?

    Ideas ??

    Edit:
    I'm not looking to blow my own horn here, ... I feel I should try to improve my "ability" to help some of my friends go a bit further and maybe evolve a tad. ... So I'm looking for tips


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    Lack of practise And fishing is not practise. I wonder how much time Tiger spends on practise? it is always the differance between fair and good, good and great.

    Rich

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    JC, ... Got your drift on that one.

    The folks wo come to me for "instruction" or tips WANT to learn. Makes it really fun.

    I've had clients who'd rather improve their casting and presentation, than fill a cooler with trout.

    I'm starting to max out in my ability to diagnose some problems though. 'Fur instance, ... it was just a while ago that I figured out how to "fix" a trailing loop (thanks to y'all here ).

    (p.s. ... Check your e-mail )

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    JC,

    ... a main flaw in the instruction of a 'green' instructor. The lack of experience in that ability, which 'only' can come from experience. ...
    A very important fact of Life there. 'fur instance, ... in my (real) job, ... I believe that a project CANNOT be supervised by someone how hasn't, in the past, successully DONE the job already.

    Makes for some tough job requirements here, ... but then again, we're managing Public forest land.

    As for learning "more" than a "pupil". ... Happens EVERY time someone asks a question

    (ps, ... it's saturday, ... not fishing ??)

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    I'm going fishing see ya.
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    I find intermediate casters are the hardest to teach. The problem is THEY DON'T LISTEN, actually they listen but revert back to thier old habits as soon as they get on the water. I have many times corrected a problem only to see them go back to the problem that has been deeply imbedded in muscle memory. To correct this I teach them a practice routine, tell them to do it 5 minutes a day for 2 weeks (not while fishing), to re-educate a long time casters habits.
    The man who coined the phrase "Money can't buy happiness", never bought himself a good fly rod!

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    Ray,
    I find intermediate casters are the hardest to teach. ...
    Me too .... Beginners are a blast 'cause they progress FAST.

    Advanced and technically "correct" casters, ... Out of my scope, so I don't go there ...

    Intermediate folks, ... they have enough experience to make repetitive "faults" and not enough "experience" to "feel" the errors and auto-correct.

    I DO have an advantage in that many folks up here are equiped for trout, ... so when they pick up a salmon rod, ... they "think" its different and are more "open" to learning.


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    JC,

    I know what you're saying.

    I just like to keep up front the fact that I'm not an Instructor (with a capital "I" ... I can help many anglers have more fun casting. For those who are looking for "real" instruction, ... I know where to refer them (ie ... HERE !!)


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    Here's a small tip but one that has helped me many times. Alot of casters want to put too much of their body into it, mainly legs. Have them cast in a kneeling position for a bit and watch how quickly they understand the difference. It also helps them understand to keep their backcast higher.

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    Brumat,

    Good one.

    Thanx

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