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    And,

    Some folks don't understand the difference between 'faster' and 'stiffer'.

    Shortening ANY blank, either from the butt or tip, makes it SLOWER in ACTON (to get the same 'flex' requires a larger percentage of the blank).

    Shortening any rod from the TIP makes it STIFFER (takes more weight to get the same flex).

    Good Luck!

    Buddy
    It Just Doesn't Matter....

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    There is a nice article on repairing just such a break.

    http://www.flyanglersonline.com/feature ... part2.html

    I have repaired several rods using this excellent article and found little or no differnce in casting.

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    When changing the length of a golf shaft it makes a significant difference if you take it from the butt or tip...a little from the tip will definitely change the frequency/flex/stiffness...the same amount from the butt will have practically no effect...I suspect it may be the same with fly rods.

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    I would have thought on a fast-action rod, it would make a noticeable difference, as only the upper portion of the rod loads during casting. On a slower action rod, I could see how it wouldn't be as noticeable.

    That said, I have never tried to repair and cast a rod with a broken tip, unless you count sticking it in a FEDEX box and shipping it to the manufacturer.

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    I think a broken tip is an omen, it's the perfect time to get a new rod!!
    The man who coined the phrase "Money can't buy happiness", never bought himself a good fly rod!

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    Take Buddy Sanders' words on this matter. He's got it right.

    If you want more, go to: Features, Rod building, Common Cents System, Part 1, pages 6-7 (Case 2). Here, this very subject is discussed with objective numbers to confirm the conclusions.

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    I'd repair it and give it try. If it caught me a nice fish I would love it forever!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Hanneman
    Take Buddy Sanders' words on this matter. He's got it right.

    If you want more, go to: Features, Rod building, Common Cents System, Part 1, pages 6-7 (Case 2). Here, this very subject is discussed with objective numbers to confirm the conclusions.
    Bill, since this is bumped up....

    I can intuitively accept case two...BUT...we don't know what the original tip was....nor what the new tip is...only the repaired one....how much change was there and in what direction?...maybe no change
    Edited:..I should say rod instead of tip....

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    Ducksterman

    I guess I should have also referenced Part 2. The rod in question is fully described as Rod D.

    The "broken tip rod" has an ERN of 4.5 and an AA of 55.
    The rod, after replacement with a new tip, has an ERN of 3.1 and an AA of 68.

    I think you might call that a significant change.

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    Indeed!

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