I have been fishing Orvis equipment for over 10 years now, and I love it. I have also fished with many other companies products too and like them equally as much. These companies include Sage, Winston, T&T, Simms, Ross Reels, Lamson, Hardy. Just to name a few and I have products that i fish and like from all of the above. But the majority of stuff does say Orvis, generally because I love the Customer Service and Its hard to beat the price point. Not to mention the fact that they don't readily just jump on to the Fast Action rod and Larger Arbor reel trend. The one thing that has broken my heart over the last few years was the discontinuing of many great products. Ross Reels-Gunnison and Colorado, and Sage-RPLs. Orvis still makes the reels that put them on the board and the slower rods also. So my question is this why is there so much hate and animosity towards this company? Isnt flyfishing and life in general about having fun?