Steven, Just want to say thanks for a great experience. Sometimes being pushed is the only way one gets better at things. My son and I were looking at flies in Gander Mountain the other night and he said "lets just go home and you can tie us a few for tomorrow, yours look better." For a compliment like that coming from him I can only say thanks to you Steven. to any of you new people out there who might be hesitating about joining this beginner swap, all I can say is, don't wait too long! Happy fishing folks. kev