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    Default Through the Looking Glass

    Hi Folks,

    Lake Moultrie waters are clearer this
    spring than I have ever seen them in over
    30 seasons of fishing here. Perhaps at
    least partially as a result of last years
    big grass carp fish kill when about 75,000
    of the big muck raking kritters went belly
    up.

    Yesterday, I was in a shallow bay that
    contained large quantities of bluegills,
    red eared sunfish and bass. I was able to
    watch the fishes reaction to my casts as
    well as how they reacted to various flies.
    It was a most illuminating experience.

    First, the largemouth bass were all
    aggressive and did not hesitate in any
    respect once the fly was sighted. I was
    fishing black leeches that Rick Z had tied
    for me. Once the bass sighted the fly, they
    charged it without hesitation from distances
    up to about 10 feet. It was exciting to
    watch. I had sighted 5 bass of 1 1/2 to 2
    pounds swimming in the bay and I hooked and
    released each of them in a short period of
    time. Killer bass fly Rick.*G* Now I know
    Rick and others catch bluegills and redears
    on the leach, but none of them approached
    the fly and when I dropped it in thier
    immediate area, they actually shied away
    from it. I have no idea why but file it
    away for future reference.

    I switched to a soft hackle that McSteff had
    sent me. He had added some very fine grey
    fuzzy fur I had sent him to the body of the
    fly. The bluegills could not seem to resist
    the fly. They would charge it repeatedly,
    mouthing the fly, and then spitting it out.
    Yes, I could see them close thier mouth on
    fly and hold it for a brief second and spit
    it back out. But I could not see a line
    twitch or feel them through the rod. For
    giggles, I added a small foam indicator and
    tried again with the same results. The
    indicator would not twitch in spite of
    numerous takes on each cast. None of the
    red ears was approaching closer than about
    a foot of the fly, but the bluegills were
    charging as if they were going to smash it,
    and at the last second would slow and mouth
    it quickly before spitting it. There were
    of course a few exceptions, mostly the
    smaller fish that grabbed the fly and tried
    to make a run for it. They were quickly
    released.

    I then tied on one of Leonards Roo scud
    patterns in about a 16. This time, the
    red eared sunfish joined in the mouthing
    of the fly, but still, the takes were so
    very subtle that if I had not been able to
    see the fish, I would not have known the
    fly had been mouthed and then released.

    I returned today and continued to watch
    thier reactions to my flies. Results were
    pretty much a carbon copy of yesterdays,
    only the bass were not in attendance. I
    had however gone by the anglers shop and
    picked up a spray can of Bang crawfish
    flavor attractant. After seeing that they
    were reacting the same as yesterday and
    quickly spitting the fly after the take, I
    applied a small spritz of the attractant to
    a scud. Out of the next 15 casts, I hooked
    and released 8 bluegills and 3 red eared
    sunfish. For the entire experiment, I only
    did a hookset when I could see the line or
    indicator twitch from the take or feel it
    through the rod. The take with the fish
    attractant did not appear any more
    aggressive but it appeared that the fish
    simple held on a bit longer and gave me an
    indication of a take other than visual.

    Next I replaced the wet fly with one of my
    Jelly Beans, a floating minnow pattern of
    about an inch and a quarter in length with
    a number 8 hook. I was not surprised that
    the strikes were not as plentiful as water
    temps were 54 degrees. They were however
    very agressive. I was getting a strike on
    it about every third cast, and hooking up
    about half the time. The bluegills were
    smashing the fly much as the bass had the
    leech pattern.

    I have gotten more wordy here than I
    intended but I plan to return tomorrow to
    allow these kritters an opportunity to
    help educate me.*G* Tomorrow I plan to fish
    nymphs and thread midges, two patterns that
    have been effective for me here. I am not
    trying to promote fish attractants by the
    way. I am just offering my experiences in
    this unusually clear setting as I experience
    them. Not scientific but I find it very
    interesting. Curious if anyone else has
    experienced these fish in clear fishbowl
    conditions and how your experiences might
    compare to mine. Warm regards, Jim

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    Very enlightening...keep it coming!

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    Yes, please do....

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    Good stuff, Jim. I loved the visual you painted for us. By the way, I have a canoe, and will travel.

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    I don't get lucky enough to ever see that kind of water down here with that kind of clear transparency. Its always either stained, silty, or murky so transparency "might" be three feet on a good day on a clean and "clear", ridge lake or canal. Still too dark to see much below the surface unless the water is so shallow that I can see the dark figures of fish on a white sandy bottom for a light background (even then, it would be hard to determine what kind of fish).

    I did see a Bluegill take my fly by biting a part of it (not the whole fly) and run off with it below the surface once, before any of his buddies could get it. Only because I could see the light yellow color of the fly as it moved beneath the surface.


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    Jim - I've noted the same thing when the water is still cool. That's why I generally use a small cork popper early in the spring. I'm usually fishing in shallow water and they often just suck the popper down without any fuss. With a bit of wind on the water you can miss it but I still have a better "hit/strike ratio" than with wet flies until the water gets a little warmer.

    I found water just at 60/61d yesterday and managed 21 with a #10 chart cork popper.

    It's goooooooooood that spring is here!!!

    donald

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    Donald, It's not fair that your water is 60
    already and mine is still in the lower 50's.
    60 degrees is killer fishing here.*G* Warm
    regards, Jim

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    Hi Jim - Great post, and of real interest to me in that much of my fishing is sight fishing in the very clear kettle-hole ponds here on Cape Cod. I was out today with the Fenglass 4 weight and started off with a size 10 humbug. I was sight casting to yellow perch, pumpkinseeds and largemouths. The bass showed zero interest (water temps are low 50's)the pumpkinseed's behaved as you described, quick take and reject, and the yellow perch were pushing each other out of the way to get at it. They do like that humbug!
    I changed to a small picketpin in order to try to entice the sunfish and immediately hooked up. Their tepid interest in the humbug was replaced with a much more committed interest to the darker more elongate picketpin. Almost every cast had a sunnnie following and many of the casts resulted in committed hits. And oh yes, the perch loved it too.
    Finally a small largemouth appeared on the scene and I cast the picketpin to him. He showed little interest, only a brief follow and a "sniff", when suddenly another largemouth rushed in from the deeper water beyond the drop-off and slammed the picketpin. I didn't really have a problem with his aggresive behavior... *G*
    After several more perch and sunnies I tied on a Rat-Faced MacDougal and tried 'em on top. No such luck. The floating dry inspired only a passing glance from any of them, but when I pulled it under and retrieved in short quick strips in order to keep it sunk, guess who hit it?
    God bless the yellow perch.
    Tight lines to all and a happy Easter too! Alec



    [This message has been edited by flytackle (edited 14 April 2006).]

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    I see the same thing many times. I will put on a fly that I can see and set the hook when the color dissapears.

    I think that alot of fish mouth the fly that we are never aware of.

    Rick

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    This is a great string of posts it is always beneficial to be able observe the the behavior of fish whether in person,or as described by others.
    Thankyou

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