I never tied elk hair caddis because I figured them as a western fly and of no use in NJ. I took a fishing trip out west recently and had to tie a small airforce of EHC to take along. I got home with many left over so I gave them a try on the local farm ponds. WOW after 40 years of fishing sunnies I have never seen a fly as effective as the EHC... Live and learn...FB.