i've asked this question before and am trying to gather more info. i have a pond that i fish occasionally and the pond is located next to a playground with kids and waterfowl that eagerly take handouts. the little panfish also like handouts and will take just about any fly i give them. but, there are some large, i would extimate, 18"+ bass that lurk just a ways off the shore. i can easily cast to them with a 3-weight, but nothing larger than a small popper. so, casting isnm't an issue. the problem is these porky bass don't take anything i give them. i've tried numerous flys and worked them over the cover, let them sit and twitch, sunk em, worked em fast, slow, you name it, and they just kinda stare and shrug. any suggestions for the bass that's seen it all?

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take him fishing