ORVIS lost my business forever and anyone else which believes my experience.Failure to stand behind their product and "100% satisfaction guarantee" means nothing.My lightweight waders starting leaking(seeping thru membrane) and after about 20 applications of Aquaseal they still leak.Sent them digital photos showing no abrasion and they look new from the outside and like a spotted cat on the inside.They even have a factory installed patch inside.Supervisor offed 20% off a new pair!I wonder if LLBean would like to show-off my photos as where "not to buy"!