I like to use thread instead of a dubbing ball. Same principal but you need a flat thread to do it easier. You can wrap directly over the previous wrap so it is more like a small ridge rather than a tapered bump. This will help to push the tails up if that is what you need. I started doind this after reading AK Best's production tying book. He has a lot of good tips in there. Hope it isn't confusing and helps. Worth a try IMO.

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[This message has been edited by Bostonangler (edited 02 May 2006).]