If anyone else has an unused vise they'd like to donate to young fisherman and tier, I know a boy that could use one, also. He's been using his dad's shop-vise and pliers this winter. I've been giving him hooks and materials, and he's been great at getting 'found materials'. He saved his money from Christmas and bought a fairly good beginner rod. There's a stocked pond within biking distance, and he was so excited when he caught a trout on something he tied. (He released it because it was small. A fine lad.)