RGary53,
I'd first sugest a search of the tying tips section here on the FAOL site!!!....Specifically for the Tips of Buying a Vise by A.K.Best....

His insights of things to consider go well beyond that of the hobby tier...He's been tying commercially for many years...and is one of the leading athorites in production tying...In short he knows what to look for in a well thought out and well made vise!!!

Best of luck in your quest of the vise...I will say Dyna Kings are a great way to cut to the chase !! And end the frustrations your having...

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"I've often wondered why it is that so many anglers spend so much money on,and pay so much attention to.the details on the wrong end of the fly line.If they took as much care in selecting or tying their flies as they did in the selection of the reel and rod,They might be able to gain the real extra edge that makes it possible to fool a fish that has,in fact,seen it all before" A.K.Best

Everyone wants to excel in this sport but at the same time we let traditionalists place restrictions on our tactics, methods, and ideas. I always assumed that fly fishing was a sport that allowed imagination, creation, adaptation, investigation, dedication, education, revelation? : Fox Statler, On Spinners (Not the dainty Dry Fly kind) "Spinner'd Minner Fly"

"Wish ya great fishing"

Bill