For the life of me I cannot recall the style hackle plier, but here is a link to the Basic Tying Kit under Flytying. [url=http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/kit/:b38c1]http://www.flyanglersonline.com/flytying/kit/[/url:b38c1]
As you scroll down the page you will see hackle pliers. The ones marked "large" and "midge" are what I am looking for with one exception, the ones I am looking for have welded on each side a flat piece of brass I think to better handle the pliers. Does anyone know of a source where I can buy them?

[This message has been edited by TyroneFly (edited 15 October 2005).]