Carnage Damsel

[ScottP]

The Blue Muddler?s for dumb fish; this one?s for the others.

hook - WFC Model 28 #12
thread- Danville 6/0 black
core - 14lb mono
body - 1mm foam blue
wing - Congo Hair white
hackle - grizzly
wing case/head - 1mm foam blue

Regards,
Scott

[rainbowchaser]

I like it. Have you thought about a fully hackled version that could be skittered over the water the way damsels tend to hover?

[ScottP]

Probably not in this configuration - the body lies in a tangent to the hook shank and it would flop over on it’s side (learned from experience). Maybe something on a standard “J” hook or using oversized hackle.

Regards,
Scott

[lastchance]

I love it. Bass will love it, too.

[Marco]

Scott,
As a non tyer, i'm curious as to the definition/application of the word "carnage" in fly nomenclature. I'm am aware of the definition to us regular folks in "regular" language/discourse.

Mark

[ScottP]

Scott,
As a non tyer, i'm curious as to the definition/application of the word "carnage" in fly nomenclature. I'm am aware of the definition to us regular folks in "regular" language/discourse.

Mark

The original Carnage fly was created by Adam Trina, the owner of Montana Fly Company and it was made by wrapping the foam on a needle and transferring it to the hook. Here's a good SBS showing his technique
Carnage Hopper Tutorial | Hopper Fishing Blog

I started tying them like that but could never get consistent results and the foam bodies proved to be very fragile. Even so, the flies were effective and floated all day long, so I played around until I found a way to make them more durable; building the body on the mono core has solved the problem for me.

Regards,
Scott

[Marco]

Thanks Scott,
Great tutorial but waayyy over my head. So apparently "carnage" is simply a name with no specific "meaning" except to differentiate it from flies NOT thusly tied and named.
Absent your answer, I assumed it meant you'd tie a bunch of them , place them on your driveway and run over them several times
Mark

[ScottP]

The ones I tie with the mono core, with or without an ungulate underbody/tail are relatively simple flies, the only issue being the need for some kind of gallows tool to provide tension on the body while wrapping the foam strip. I made a basic one from an old wire utility flag and a nylon collar I found at one of the big box hardware stores; took about 10 minutes to put it together. None of this stuff is rocket science.