Teaching without useing the word 'Casting'

[qrrfish1]

Just wondering if anyone on here has learned to teach fly rod performance to students with out using the word 'Casting'. Id be the first to admit its tough, but oh the rewards are so in the results astounding. I'm just curious.

[rainbowchaser]

Talking about transporting the fly with the line makes sense and I do that but it seems pretty long winded for constant use. Getting away from the term "casting" might help avoid the muscle memory of casting a weighted lure that most people have. " Line manipulation" maybe?

[qrrfish1]

How about , draw, project , aim. Is that not part of forming the loop shaping, deciding the energy path and direction?

[Rick Z]

With the few folks I have introduced to fly fishing I always say you are casting the line not the lure.
Rick

[qrrfish1]

I was just wondering of those who may have learned to teach with out using the word 'casting'. I know how effective it is, an how difficult it can be for an instructor to put into practice.

[sagefisher]

I was taught at a very early age to cast my bread onto the water. But since I am not fishing for catfish, I figure I can use flies instead.

Larry ---sagefisher---

[lastchance]

I've been casting flies for over 30 years. I don't know how else to describe the act.

cast¹
kast/
verb
verb: cast; 3rd person present: casts; past tense: cast; past participle: cast; gerund or present participle: casting
1.
throw (something) forcefully in a specified direction.
"lemmings cast themselves off the cliff"

synonyms:

throw, toss, fling, pitch, hurl, lob; informalchuck "he cast the stone into the stream"

[qrrfish1]

Perhaps I should ask have you tryed to teach a fly rod student the fundamentals fly rod manipulation, performance understanding' without using the word, 'casting'.

[JohnScott]

...but oh the rewards are so in the results astounding.....

So ..... can you describe and explain say a half dozen or so of the astounding results that would not result from using the word "casting" to talk about casting ?

I'm just curious.

Thanks.

John

[qrrfish1]

Learning curve cut to minutes rather than years. When a student tells you they learned more in minutes than they have working with instructors for 10 years. You start to understand you've found a key. I used to teach three or more days a week and did so for over thirty years. Took me a long time to figure out why people were not understanding such a simple thing as throwing a fly rod. There is only one real answer. Instructors were telling them to do the wrong thing. Most students know or have a concept of what casting means to them, Why tell them to do the wrong thing and confuse them when with some effort you can learn to teach yourself to use more accurate language. The number of instructors who haven't yet made the effort, utterly astounds me.