Jigs as ?Flies??

[Byron haugh]

I have to ask, when did jigs become Flies?

Am seeing more and more posting of jigs purported to be ?Flies?.

[whatfly]

Nice troll.

[Byron haugh]

I think this is a reasonable question.
I take it you don’t. That’s fine.

[johnstoeckel]

I believe this started with the European competitive fly fishing community. But has since spread to Euro style nymph fishers and nymph fishers in general around the world. A competition style jig fly is simply a fly tied with a large tungsten bead so that the hook point rides upward.

There are competition style jig hooks available which have a 60 degree bend at the eye, generally a wide hook gap, and generally a barbless point. See, for example, the Tiemco C400BL.

Competition style flies are generally impressionistic with a "hot spot" either at the tag or the collar. Many are tied "in the round" and many are tied with hard body materials to facilitate sink rate.

If you object to weighted nymph fishing, then they aren't for you. Otherwise, they are just a modern refinement of nymph fly design that have some advantages.

[Byron haugh]

When I was young, we fished with jigs.
I don’t understand how it is “fly fishing”. You can throw nearly anything with a fly rod

[FishnDave]

Since at least 1940?
See message #6 in this thread:
http://www.flyanglersonline.com/bb/showthread.php?45173-Mighty-Mite

[Byron haugh]

There are also “worm “flies” “

[okflyfisher]

Call them what you want....to each their own, i fish all year for lots of different kinds of fish from top to bottom and prefer to do it with a fly rod (4 wt thru 8wt). i fish " flies" that are the most effective for the targeted fish at the given water conditions, and sometimes that includes light weight jigs and Clouser minnows.

[Byron haugh]

You misunderstood. There are worm flies. Takeoffs on the Dan Juan worm. Have seen ones strapped to a hook to imitate an earth worm

[Philly]

Basically, you're talking about a style of hook. No different from a dry fly hook, wet fly hook or a streamer hook. If I slip a brass bead on a jig hook and tie a PT Nymph on it. I've tied a fly on that hook. If I tie a Clouser Minnow on a streamer hook using lead dumbbell eyes, I've tied a fly. If I slip a large brass bead or even use dumb bell eyes on a jig hook and tie the same pattern, have I tied a fly called the Clouser Minnow or a buck tail jig?