I had just started with Healing Waters and they were going to take us fly fishing. This would be my first try at fishing with a fly rod. I was using a tapered leader they had given me and a small spool of tippet. Warren had come up to me and asked if I had a partner and I said no. So he said he would be mine. I made a few cast and Warren said let me see your rod. He looked at my line said fish with his rod so he could fix my rod. He took the tapered leader off and put a furled leader on that he had made. Even being a newbee, I could tell the different and I had been using them ever cense. I have tried to make them with Warren but I can only break the line or make a big mess. It's funny but Warren has not given up on me...LOL