a #12 wooly with chartreuse chenile and olive hackle, and a very short clump of red marabou for a tail has been very productive for me in rivers, lakes, and ponds for crappie, bass, and blue gills. I've never caught a trout on one, but that's probably because I do more warm water fishing and I tend to go to more "specialty" flies when I do go after trout,

[This message has been edited by bartleby (edited 30 March 2005).]