Jeff, received the Orvis rod on Wednesday. Fished the Arkansas River for a few hours and caught an 18 inch Rainbow (using the Orvis). Caught the fish on a size 20 Goober Midge. I couldn't be happier with this rod. Only thing is it isn't a rod for small dry flies. It excelled at throwing large (4 to 6) woolly buggers though. Again I can't thank you enough.